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04 August 2016 @ 11:54 am
 
First, my apologies for not posting in awhile. My father passed away on the 22nd of July - it's been a difficult time.

Second, I am finally able to start the editorial-notes revision of Pale Guardian (Asher/Ysidro # 7), though it's still a bit hard to concentrate. (I am also taking a certification course for my teaching, NOT what I'd rather be doing at this point, but necessary to earning a living).

Third - Does anybody know what the rank of a Quartermaster's Clerk in the British Army would be, in 1915? I'd guessed a Corporal (since the guy who did the actual Quartermaster job in a regiment was a Sergeant), but the editor is asking, "Could you confirm that?" Anybody know where I could look for the answer?

MANY thanks!
 
 
 
Sovay: PJ Harvey: crowsovay on August 4th, 2016 07:58 pm (UTC)
My father passed away on the 22nd of July - it's been a difficult time.

I am sorry for your loss. His memory for a blessing.
martianmooncrab: pic#59898509martianmooncrab on August 4th, 2016 08:03 pm (UTC)
Company Quartermaster Sargent ... according to this, and the military would of course, promote someone to that rank if they didnt have someone.

http://www.1914-1918.net/whatbatt.htm
barbara_hamblybarbara_hambly on August 4th, 2016 08:22 pm (UTC)
Many thanks! But, I need the rank of the fellow who was his assistant - the Sergeant's clerk - the one who'd be stealing the place blind behind the sergeant's back and selling the food and gasoline to the local peasants (or the Germans, for that matter). I presume he'd be a corporal?
martianmooncrab: pic#59898509martianmooncrab on August 4th, 2016 09:04 pm (UTC)
and I am sorry to hear about your Dad, my sympathies.

and down the research rabbit hole I go.. I cant really find if or whom worked for the QMS, but, in most military organizations, you had someone who put in for supplies and then if you were lucky they got delivered. I found a delightful bit on how the BA requistion practices helped with the loss of the Colonies, but that wasnt pertinent ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_Cavalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartermaster_sergeant

then I found this site...

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/200206-need-more-detail-about-the-orderly-room-mess-sergeant-etc/

huh, then the pay scales...

http://www.1914-1918.net/pay_1914.html

then there is this actual film clip

http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/clips/zmj7pv4

this really doesnt have to do with the regiments, but was interesting how they got their supplies

http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/transport-and-supply-during-the-first-world-war

then there is this nugget

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-army-service-corps-in-the-first-world-war/

barbara_hamblybarbara_hambly on August 4th, 2016 10:33 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I'd already gone to some of those, and couldn't find anything under Sergeant. I'd have thought there would be a one-rank-lower fellow as an assistant, but it doesn't look as if there is.
MANY thanks for your efforts!
martianmooncrabmartianmooncrab on August 5th, 2016 03:12 am (UTC)
I love research, and odd facts, one of the tricks when searching is to look for the same thing different name trick... in this case Quartermaster equals Supply Officer, then you take all the sideroads to anywhere...
Wandering Hedgehog: Mrs Tiggywinkleoursin on August 4th, 2016 08:56 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry for your loss: condolences.
The Green Knightgreen_knight on August 4th, 2016 09:28 pm (UTC)
My condolences.
Elizabeth McCoy: Sad Eyesarchangelbeth on August 4th, 2016 11:02 pm (UTC)
*hugs*
Badgerbadgermirlacca on August 4th, 2016 11:47 pm (UTC)
I am so sorry for your loss.
Nicholas D. Rosen: forcendrosen on August 5th, 2016 03:32 am (UTC)
Please accept my condolences on your loss.
lilacsigil: 12 Apostleslilacsigil on August 5th, 2016 04:21 am (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear about your father.
sue_bursztynskisue_bursztynski on August 5th, 2016 05:33 am (UTC)
So sorry to hear! Condolences to you - I remember how I felt when my own father passed away in 2009.

I hope you find what you're looking for. Perhaps it might be best to contact one of those web sites, there's bound to be a military historian on one of them.

The only one I found said that the quartermaster was a Captain or a Lieutenant, but that was HQ, and it was not the clerk.
desperance: lukedesperance on August 5th, 2016 05:50 am (UTC)
This is a lot later, but the hierarchy of the Combined Cadet Force (schoolboys playing at soldiers) certainly emulated WW2 structures, which probably emulated WW1 structures - and our quartermaster was a sergeant, and I was his assistant, and I was a corporal by virtue of that role. So I think you'd be perfectly safe to give a sergeant a corporal-clerk; nobody is going to say "nah, couldn't happen". It totally could. And feels right anyway, feels like SOP, or why were we doing it...?
desperance: lukedesperance on August 5th, 2016 05:51 am (UTC)
(Oh, I should've said - this was 1970s.)
Epeebladeepeeblade on August 5th, 2016 10:59 am (UTC)
I am so sorry for your loss.
sue_bursztynski: pic#98605106sue_bursztynski on August 5th, 2016 11:39 pm (UTC)
I emailed Anthony Hill, one if my LinkedIn contacts, who writes WWI stuff. He says he diesn't know, but suggested you try the Imperial War Museum(London) web site which has contact email addresses or the Australian War Memorial. If the IWM doesn't know, you can tell your editor that it's unlikely the average Asher/Ysidro reader will. ;-)
Chris Hillbookzombie on August 6th, 2016 04:29 pm (UTC)
Very sorry for your loss.
Severina: qaf: hugsseverina2001 on August 7th, 2016 06:15 pm (UTC)
My sympathies on your loss.
Tracey StewartWalk_inthe_Dust on August 11th, 2016 12:44 pm (UTC)
Deepest condolences
I'm of no help at all with your questions, but - I'm so sorry for your loss!