barbara_hambly ([info]barbara_hambly) wrote,
@ 2008-04-14 18:49:00
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 Just a check-in, though I'm tired and more tapped-out than usual. My family and I spent a lovely day yesterday at the Getty Villa in Malibu (probably the only truly cool-and-pleasant place in the LA area yesterday); the place itself as beautiful as the stuff inside it. It's astonishing, the sheer quantities of trivial facts about Greek and Roman history and mythology I can spout upon a moment's notice. I always could, and teaching Western Civ has made me infinitely worse.

 Still frustratingly entangled in the Re-Write From Hell, so it's difficult to talk about anything: restless, sleep, bad dreams. Certainly the reason I haven't been on LJ since I got back from New Orleans. My neice came down to visit the night before, and we watched Enchanted: I realize the "Cute Little Animals Clean Up The House" song is supposed to be clever, but if I had a child who was at all phobic about some of the vermin (and I use the term advisedly) in that number, I'd hesitate to take them to see that film. There are shots in that sequence that are truly the stuff of nightmares.

Or maybe most kids aren't as twitchy as I was (and am).

In between sending in bits of "Is this what you had in mind?" to my editor (and having her be out of the office for a week or ten days) I am hacking at first draft of a historical mystery (the pseudonymous one I've been asked not to talk about).  This is always slow and frustrating going: stopping every paragraph or so to look up how old Character A was in a flashback, and what would a horse cost in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the mid-eighteenth century? (The closest I could get to a specific was that George Washington turned in an expense-account item to Congress asking to be reimbursed for six grand and change, for the purchase of five horses and a carriage, to go to the front in, which even at this distance seems to be pretty nervy). (George, famously, refused payment for his services as Commander in Chief - something he could afford to do, having married the richest widow in Virginia - and said, "I'll only take expense reimbursement." Meaning, all the other Continnental generals got paid in wildly inflated Continnental paper money, while George got paid back after Congress had gotten its financial act together and money was worth something again.) (I suppose, in a way, he was betting on the success of the Revolution, since if the Brits had won, he a) wouldn't have got paid anything and b) would have been hanged, drawn, and quartered - always supposing he and Martha didn't high-tail it to Mexico or France.)



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[info]splendidissima
2008-04-15 03:48 am UTC (link)
You may have heard about this nifty upcoming event, but as a fellow UC Riverside grad student and medievalist, I thought I'd send on the link. Having Ray Bradbury as a special guest speaker promises to be thrilling in very many ways.

http://eatonconference.ucr.edu/

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[info]writergirlie
2008-04-15 04:53 am UTC (link)
's astonishing, the sheer quantities of trivial facts about Greek and Roman history and mythology I can spout upon a moment's notice. I always could, and teaching Western Civ has made me infinitely worse.

I knew you were my favorite author for a reason :).

If I ever win the lottery (because I am planning to someday, you know ;)), I would love to go back to school and major in history. Not that I didn't enjoy it the first time around, studying Economics (believe it or not, with the right professor, it's actually quite an exciting subject), but I have always loved history, and absent the whole "but what'll I do with a major like that" pressure, I think I could truly just immerse myself in it.

I especially love European history, and especially the Medieval period--probably why I'm so drawn to fantasy novels, as they often evoke that world :).

Still frustratingly entangled in the Re-Write From Hell, so it's difficult to talk about anything: restless, sleep, bad dreams.

Sending you good vibes! Not fun, that :(.

My neice came down to visit the night before, and we watched Enchanted: I realize the "Cute Little Animals Clean Up The House" song is supposed to be clever, but if I had a child who was at all phobic about some of the vermin (and I use the term advisedly) in that number, I'd hesitate to take them to see that film. There are shots in that sequence that are truly the stuff of nightmares.

I'm not a child, and I got freaked out by that scene. It was the cockroaches that got to me especially. Those are just disgusting creatures. And having lived in NYC, and having once shared an apartment with Micky Mouse himself (who had no fear of humans, I might add), seeing any kind of live rodent on screen is not a fun experience.

But ya gotta admit, Prince Edward was cute, eh? ;)

(Sorry, just in a James Marsden phase right now, so the man can do no wrong in my eyes these days ;))

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[info]barbara_hambly
2008-04-15 03:01 pm UTC (link)
Well, I'm basically an economic determinist, so I have an economic view of history, and would be most curious to take some good econ courses. I went through the "What'll I do with this major...?" phase, and because I wanted to write, my original choice was English, which I bailed out of within a quarter. I recently went back to take a second crack at an MA in English (most colleges won't let you teach writing without either that or an MFA, no matter how many novels you've published); if I win the lottery I'd like to go back and finish it, not for teaching or writing, but for pleasure. (I found I could not do enough work to support myself, working only five days a week).

Yes, I'm violently phobic about roaches and found that scene almost literally unwatchable. Weirdly, while I was working on "Bride of the Rat-God" my house was invaded by rats (the only time I've had them in the house in the 20 years I've owned the place), and loathe them: they are horrible creatures. Ordinary spiders don't bother me (though since I live in California, I'll check to see if it's a black widow), though I might be scared of one that's the size of a rat simply because they'd do a lot of damage biting you (I know tarantulas aren't poisonous, but they'll still hurt like hell); snakes and lizards don't bother me because my sister has always kept them for pets. And I knew, growing up, that they ate cockroaches, which meant they were Good.

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[info]writergirlie
2008-04-16 01:00 am UTC (link)
Well, I'm basically an economic determinist, so I have an economic view of history, and would be most curious to take some good econ courses.

I had an incredible professor in undergrad who studied at the University of Chicago, which is known for applying economics to non-traditional subject areas, such as every day life. It's so fascinating! My professor's specialty was the economics of religion--great stuff.

For a taste of that sort of thing, I highly recommend "Freakonomics" by Stephen Levitt (also at the UofC). It's written in a very accessible style and does a great job of convincing people that economics can be applied to anything, really, because at its core, it's simply about how people make the decisions they make, based on what they perceive as the benefits and the trade-offs.

Ok, that's enough econ geeking out from me ;).

I do have to say that when I took econ in business school, it was taught it a very different manner, and I found I didn't connect to it nearly as much as I did in undergrad. I found myself liking my finance classes a lot more--something completely unexpected for me, but once again, I had a dynamic professor (who's known worldwide and is the reason that some people choose to come to my alma mater) who made the difference.

Yay for amazing professors! You guys make it much more motivating to learn :).

if I win the lottery I'd like to go back and finish it, not for teaching or writing, but for pleasure.

Amen to that. I'm a student at heart. If one could make a career as a student (which I'm sure some people have been successful at doing), I would. I never thought I'd say that again, since after I finished business school, I was so burnt out that I vowed I would never go back to school again, but the thirst for learning never really does go away, I find.

Yes, I'm violently phobic about roaches and found that scene almost literally unwatchable.

I honestly didn't think I'd find it as disturbing as I did. I think I literally screamed out loud. I saw it with my mother, who herself is deathly afraid of rodents (comes from a traumatic experience of being locked in a closet with rats by a teacher once--needless to say, my grandparents gave that teacher a piece of their mind), so you can imagine the both of us cowering in the dark, wondering when the madness would all end.

Lizards don't scare me as much (when I was little and we lived in the Philippines, I found the little ones oddly fascinating, even if I didn't like them landing on my body whenever they would leap from one place to another), but snakes on the other hand... I know they do good things, such as eating rodents and all, but they still scare me :).

And if rats had invaded my home the way they had invaded yours, I think I might have moved ;). As it was, I was terrified of that little mouse in my apartment in New York. In retrospect, I guess I'd have to admit it was even borderline cute, but given that I was in a tiny little closet of a so-called studio apartment, and it would be literally inches away from me, staring, twitching its nose at me as though challenging me to come after it, I can honestly say that that's way too close to ever be near a rodent.

I think I just have lots of animal phobias ;).

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[info]barbara_hambly
2008-04-16 03:36 am UTC (link)
Three years of living in New Orleans certainly didn't help with the cockroach phobia issue. They're about the size of Volkswagens.

On the other hand, I liked the gekkos at the vacation cottage I rented in Hawaii just after my husband died. They'd make this little peeping noise, very sweet, as they dashed across the floor or scrabbled around in the bath-tub. Of course the roaches there were bigger than the gekkos. We got an immense one in the cottage, whose ceiling was FAR too high to go after the thing (you'd need a cherrypicker truck for that). All my friend and I could do was name him, so if we saw him we could say, "Oh, there goes Big Kahuna again..." Weirdly, it helped.

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[info]writergirlie
2008-04-16 03:40 am UTC (link)
The cockroaches in the Philippines are as big as walnuts--and they fly. I shudder at the mere thought of them, ewww.

Gekkos are cute. I forgot that that's what they were called, the little ones.

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[info]rhj_rs
2008-04-18 05:52 pm UTC (link)
They call 'em "palm beetles" in Hawaii. As if a different name would make them more palatable...

Back in the day, when I used to clean and test sewers and storm drains (had to pay for college somehow...) I encountered some of the biggest cockroaches ever in the sewers of San Francisco. Downtown, the tunnels leading down to the sewers were still made of brick, with lots of nooks and crannies - full of cockroaches, naturally. It gave me great pleasure to hook up the water gun and blast the little buggers with 1200 PSI of water.

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Of geckos and roaches
[info]orfhlaith
2008-04-21 01:10 am UTC (link)
"Of course the roaches there were bigger than the gekkos. "

I lived in Honolulu for 3 years, and in Coast Guard housing we called the roaches B-52's. They are huge and they fly.

The little peeping noise the geckos make is a mating call. They are out looking for love. ;)

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[info]handworn
2008-04-18 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Your economic determinism shows through in the behavior of the merchants in the Keep of Dare. It's nearly unique among F&SF writers, that I know of, but it seems to me that it's a great tool to have in your toolbox because you're asking readers to suspend their disbelief about less.

It's astonishing, the sheer quantities of trivial facts about Greek and Roman history and mythology I can spout upon a moment's notice.

Like Roman vampires biting off the noses of their victims? ;-)

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[info]archangelbeth
2008-04-15 01:41 pm UTC (link)
*has nothing to add but going "oh, COOL" at the tidbits of fact*

...so long as the Enchanted scene has no spiders in it, I'll be cool. (And my kid likes spiders. *shudder*)

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[info]coerdelion
2008-04-15 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Haven't seen Enchanted yet - only just out on DVD here and we're moving. Don't want to add anything new to schlep to new house - there's enough already. But looking forward to it (Enchanted) - of course I've never seen a live cockroach.

Oh yes, we live in the the place with continental money ... Lol!

Apparently gekkos are good for cockroaches. But then you have the problem of the lizards ... but you don't mind them, so not a problem, really.

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Vermin
[info]kibihofmann
2008-04-16 08:04 am UTC (link)
My niece came down to visit the night before, and we watched Enchanted: I realize the "Cute Little Animals Clean Up The House" song is supposed to be clever, but if I had a child who was at all phobic about some of the vermin (and I use the term advisedly) in that number, I'd hesitate to take them to see that film. There are shots in that sequence that are truly the stuff of nightmares.

Well, I took two of my kids to see the movie and they loved it. Admittedly, my boy is 9 years old and loves all animals, collecting snails at school etc, so it's not such a stretch. My 7 year old girl goes white at the sight of a roach, and I think a real live rat would paralyze her with fear - but she thought the rats & roaches in the movie were funny. I guess kids have an easier time distinguishing fiction from reality.

Reminds me of years ago when I used to get out to movies every week. One week I went with a friend to a midnight showing (for the right ambiance) of "Dracula" (the one with Keanu Reeves) and we were bored rigid, it was not in the least scary. The next week we went to 7pm showing of Jurassic Park and I felt grateful I hadn't drunk too much before the movie, some of the scenes - dino biting a man in two basically - were so damn scary. Meanwhile all the kids in the theater were yelling "Kill 'im! Eat 'im!"

I weep for the next generation..... :-)

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[info]barbara_hambly
2008-04-16 03:09 pm UTC (link)
Being extremely familiar with the book Dracula, I found the Coppola/Keanu version simply annoying: but then, most films whose underlying message seems to be "All women are sluts" annoy me. (And was there a woman in that film who WASN'T?) I didn't find Jurassic Park scary in the least. The marketing and manipulation were just too blatant.

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